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Spencer's avatar

Great post! I think the outcome vs process split is a very accurate description, but also allows for other policies to aid in fixing the problems that are focused on by the Abundance movement. As some other comments mentioned, there may be issues with hard costs from construction supplier monopolies, this means that there is room to include anti-monopolists in an outcome-focused policy framework. If the goal is to lower housing costs, we can both reduce process hurdles and target upstream monopoly power. The groups that should still be excluded are ones pushing for policies hampering healthy (intervention needed for unhealthy ones) market dynamics and benefitting specific groups over the average constituent.

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AI8706's avatar

It's less a civil war than a rout. I've listened to lots of purported dialogue between Klein/Thompson and their self-professed critics. The critics have uniformly embarrassed themselves. I don't think Zephyr Teachout read the book (or, if she did, it casts doubt on her ability to comprehend a pretty basic argument). Sam Seder repeated "big money" like a malfunctioning chatbot who couldn't grasp that perhaps you can't build a coherent policy agenda by measuring up where the "big money" goes and taking the opposite side.

The next smart critique of Abundance that I read will be the first. I'm more than open to them, but what they've done with spectacular success is convinced me that the self-proclaimed progressives are not serious people who have thoughtful policy ideas, but rather an internet comment section come to life.

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